It’s just so awesome, isn’t it? Every time something comes up about UCF’s National Championship, the Alabama people flip the hell out. Now it’s Nick Saban’s turn.
Guys, this argument is going to be with us forever. So if you’re a UCF fan, or just like what UCF is doing to the college football world, you may as well arm yourself for the long haul with some facts.
Rule #1 of the internet is this: Don’t engage the trolls.
But if you, dear Knight fans, find the temptation impossible to resist, or you just have this one annoying uncle from Alabama who has a crimson pickup and two dogs named Bear and Bryant that you have to deal with every Thanksgiving, we give you this handy, iron-clad, definitive guide to countering every argument against UCF’s national championship claim.
Let us begin:
UCF Didn’t Win the National Championship
You guys are NOT the national champions.
Yeah, we are. The NCAA says so in its official record book:
Check it out:
But you’re not THE national champions.
We are a national champion. We got t-shirts and had a parade and everything:
No, you’re not. Alabama is. They beat Georgia in the CFP National Championship.
That’s awesome. Good for them.
But UCF is the only team that didn’t lose a game last year. 13-0. Plus UCF beat Auburn in the Peach Bowl, who beat both Alabama and Georgia in the regular season.
You’re just declaring yourselves national champions. The transitive property doesn’t apply in college football.
Actually, we’re not. UCF finished #1 in the Colley Matrix, which is recognized by the NCAA as a championship selector for the FBS level. Plus UCF was honored by the Columbus Touchdown Club and Reddit’s r/CFB as national champions. And we also we cannot forget MCubed.net.
Colley is a computer ranking. You didn’t win it on the field.
That was from another era.
Really? I don’t see Bama taking it down. It’s right up there in their 2018 Spring Football Media guide, next to all of the other ones from this era:
Two can play that game:
UCF’s Schedule Was Weak
Well, play a better schedule then.
You know nothing about scheduling. You play the games in front of you, and UCF’s non-conference schedule was determined years in advance, just like everyone else’s.
Consider UCF’s recent non-conference agreements, and the records of the teams they scheduled at the time they scheduled them (Due credit to our Twitter follower who composed this - it was a while back, so please let us know if it was you):
In 2017, UCF played Maryland and crushed them in College Park. UCF also played USF and Memphis to end the year - two ranked teams who should have been ranked in the CFP rankings in addition to UCF but weren’t - and beat them both.
Oh, by the way, they were supposed to play Georgia Tech but didn’t because of the hurricane. That’s not UCF’s fault.
And if you want UCF to play a better schedule going forward, well, look what just happened:
UCF at Texas, which was scheduled for Sept. 9, 2023, has been canceled.— FBSchedules.com (@FBSchedules) May 16, 2018
Yeah, but you didn’t play any good teams. Bama did.
OK, let’s break that down:
2017 Record Comparison: UCF vs. Alabama
|Record vs. Bowl Teams||8-0||8-1|
|Margin of Victory||+16.8||+11.6|
|Record vs. Final AP Top 25 Teams||4-0||4-1|
|Margin of Victory||+12.0||+4.8|
UCF won nine games against teams with winning records, and four that finished in the AP Top 25. Eight of their wins were against seven bowl teams (UCF beat Memphis twice), and they beat those teams by a wider margin than Alabama did.
The one team Bama lost to in those games was Auburn. UCF beat them.
Yeah but every year one of you G5 teams goes undefeated by beating a stack of cupcakes.
I’m sorry - Cupcakes?
Undefeated teams in the past 3 decades with 4 or more wins over AP Top 25 teams:— KR-UCF (@kruciff) July 18, 2018
17 UCF ⚔️⚔️
(Credit to the dungeon)
Oh come on, you played Austin Peay?
Austin Peay, the Knights’ lone FCS opponent, finished 8-4 and 7-1 in their league in FCS, and we racked up a school-record 73 points on them.
The Austin Peay game was also scheduled right after a frickin’ Category 4 hurricane wiped out two of UCF’s first three games. And they should have made the FCS Playoffs, but were snubbed.
Also, Alabama played Mercer, who finished 5-6 and placed 5th in the SoCon, and scored only 56 on them. So they couldn’t even pick the right cupcake to squash.
Alabama had a MUCH tougher schedule than UCF because they’re in the SEC and UCF is in The American.
Actually, no, they didn’t:
2017 Strength of Schedule: UCF vs. Alabama
|Warren Nolan||6th||12th||Based on opp win%. (UCF .611, Bama .641)|
|SB Nation Resume S&P+||1st||10th||S&P+ ranks: UCF 9th, Alabama 2nd|
UCF was just a flash in the pan
Enjoy your 15 minutes.
We’ve actually been enjoying a nice run since 2012. UCF is one of only 27 programs that have won 50 games since that year. And that was with one winless season sandwiched in.
Yeah, about that 0-12 in 2015...
Yeah, what about it? Why lie: It was a colossal disaster. And it set the stage for the greatest two-year turnaround in college football history:
UCF becomes the first team in FBS history to go from winless to an undefeated regular season in a 2yr span— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) November 25, 2017
But you haven’t really been all that good for a while anyway.
Uh, since 2005:
- 7 division titles
- 5 conference titles (in two conferences!)
- 5 10-win seasons
- 9 bowl appearances
- 2-0 in BCS/NY6 Bowls
Yeah, but you’re not a sustained contender like Boise State.
Check again, and I remind you that this is with a 0-12 season sandwiched in:
Most wins the last 5 seasons— NCAAF Nation (@NCAAFNation247) May 17, 2018
1. Boise St 50
2. San Diego State 47
3. Toledo 46
4. Houston 45
4. WKU 45
6. Navy 44
6. Marshall 44
6. Northern Illinois 44
9. Appalachian State 41
10. Memphis 40
10. UCF 40
11. Colorado St 39
11. Arkansas St 39
14. Ohio 38
14. L-Tech 38
Yeah but they play a tough non-conference slate every year. Why don’t you?
News flash: UCF’s non-conference scheduling has been better than Boise State’s over the past decade:
Did you even look at UCF's OOC in the same time span?— Matt Brodsky (@MattSBrodsky) December 15, 2018
NC St (2x)
Penn St (2x)
S. Carolina (2x)
Notable: def. UGA, Baylor, Auburn in bowls, def. 6 UL in conf game.
GT, UNC canceled https://t.co/w7cZTSUCaE
UCF’s Conference is Inferior
If you don’t like your conference, then get into a better conference!
Dammit, nothing happened. Been trying that for years now. Maybe one day it’ll work.
Bama is in the SEC. They’re a MUCH better conference than The American.
No, they actually weren’t in 2017, from top to bottom:
2017 Conference Comparison
|.500 or below teams||5||5|
|Bowl Record vs. P5||4-5||3-1|
And if we take total non-conference competition into account:
2017 Non-Conference Records
|Record vs. Power Five||AAC||SEC|
|Record vs. Power Five||AAC||SEC|
So is the SEC better than The American? In 2017, not nearly by as much as you think.
Whatever. Auburn would’ve whipped you if they cared.
You mean they didn’t care enough after they and their vaunted SEC speed got called out publicly?
Tell that to Auburn’s star running back Kerryon Johnson, who said after the game:
“To those who thought we weren’t motivated, you’re not in our locker room, you’re not in our practices, you’re not in our meeting rooms. Obviously they don’t know what is going on. We were plenty motivated to get this win. (We) just literally shot ourselves in the foot.”
UCF doesn’t produce NFL-level talent.
False. Do your homework on that one.
Well, your conference doesn’t, anyway.
If you had better teams in your league, you’d have better resources.
Big 12 announces it is distributing $36.5 million in revenue per school, which doesn’t include individual school’s Tier 3 revenue— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) June 1, 2018
If you really were good enough, the committee would have put you in the playoff.
That’s not UCF’s fault. UCF was undefeated throughout the whole season and got froze out of the Playoff because of the committee’s bias against non-Power Five teams in its rankings. UCF got leapfrogged in the rankings by two-and three-loss teams when it should have been moved up each week.
Hell, both USF (10-2) and Memphis (10-3) should have been ranked by the committee but weren’t. Those wins ended up hurting UCF with the committee, who produce their own rankings based on the “Eye Test.”
Bottom line: UCF is the first, and so far only, undefeated team in the CFP Era. And winning all of its games wasn’t enough to get the Knights into the party. That’s wrong on every level.
But don’t take our word for it. Take it from Rodger Sherman of The Ringer:
Well, you agreed to the CFP system.
Uh-huh - Under the guise that it would be fairer to teams from the Group of Five than the BCS. NEWS FLASH: It’s not. And we just proved it.
Digest these factoids (hat tip to an Iowa fan somewhere):
- 2017 UCF is one of 159 teams over the past 40 seasons to win at least three games versus ranked competition during the regular season, and one of only three non-power league teams to do so.
- UCF is also one of only 36 undefeated teams to win at least three games versus ranked competition during the regular season. 34 of them placed in the AP top 4. 2008 Utah (finished #7) and UCF (#10) are the exceptions.
So the CFP is no different than the BCS. It just has four teams in the party and not two.
SHUT UP, OK! JUST SHUT UP! WE’D WHOOP YOUR ASSES IF WE PLAYED YOU. SABAN FOREVER! TUA! BEAR BRYANT! UCF SUCKS! ROLL DAMN TIDE!